Civility-theater liberalism is not enough, whether it’s the staged heat of campus showdowns or the cool civility of podcast tête-à-têtes. The duty is twofold: Design a forum that can carry facts, history, and counterargument into the room, and host it with someone who has done the homework to press, correct, and judge in real time. When a platform is given to arguments that narrow the circle of equal regard, pair the marquee guest with the scholar who can supply the record and with those who live with the downstream effects—the policies those arguments license and the resentments they cultivate. If the host can meet the standard, let them; if not, choose one who will—or don’t stage the show. If the format can’t do that, if it launders or airbrushes dehumanization, then don’t use it. If the platform can be rebuilt, rebuild it; if it can’t, retire it.